There has been a lot of bad press recently alleging social media abuse by some Labour Party supporters.
But social media is often far from social.
Take a look at the tweet today by Tooting Labour Party with regard to one Peter Bingle. But note it is not Tooting Labour being offensive but allegedly Mr Bingle
“Tooting Labour Party
These disgusting tweets from a Senior Wandsworth Conservative and former Head of Housing at Wandsworth Council need to investigated by @MetPoliceUK under the Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006. We raised them 3 weeks ago but Wandsworth Conservatives have refused to denounce”
The sample of tweets are show below:-
So who is Mr Bingle?
His social media timeline is a mixed bag.
But a quick google search and here he is.
The London Lobbyist with Ties to Billions of Pounds of Gentrification. Peter Bingle spends his time schmoozing councils on behalf of property developers
Grenfell action group
If you read the likes of the Sun and the Times firstly why and secondly you may believe all Jeremy Corbyn supporting Facebook groups are cesspits of hate.
Trolls like to infiltrate pages and groups for many reasons including they have nothing better to do, they are pathetic, they want to stir things up, they are fifth columnists and more.
But we have to accept that in anger people lash out and sometimes that translates to their online activity.
So let me introduce you to one hell of a hate-filled group called Jeremy Corbyn Watch
Take a look if you want to and be sure to report the page to Facebook as you hastily retreat.
With around 8,000 members it claims to be “observing the Labour Party” and be a “just for fun” page but that is simply misleading.
It is much more than that. It is pure hate.
The creator of this page is unknown. Cowards and bullies online tend to prefer anonymity.
Footage via Alan Sugar, shares re Tommy Robinson, hateful comments and more rings many alarm bells.
Yet this group appears to have stayed off limits to The Times undercover reporter Gabriel Pogrund who used others to infiltrate Corbyn supporting groups over a long period of time and found a few instances of abuse.
I ventured over to Jeremy Corbyn Watch briefly and in a view seconds observed a mass of abuse.
Abuse like this shown below, and kudos to John Robe who was equally shocked by what he saw.
Will the mainstream media share this story?
We will share it with them and ask you do the same.
Let’s see just how serious they are about removing social media hate.
From within a Jeremy Corbyn supporting Facebook group
Lord Sugar you should be fired from Twitter
Jeremy Corbyn supporter looks back at this week
On March 22, 2018, the Foreign Office led by Boris Johnson U.K. Foreign Secretary was adamant that Russia was to blame for an attack in Salisbury involving a former double agent and his daughter. A police officer also sustained injuries.
In a rollercoaster few weeks the British Tory government acted fast and many would say too fast.
Labour Party leader, and therefore leader of the British government’s official opposition at this time, Jeremy Corbyn, was criticised when the story broke for offering a more cautious approach.
Act in haste repent at leisure, so the saying goes.
Wednesday after experts at Porton Down said they had found no link between Russia and the nerve agent used in the attack the Foreign Office or Boris Johnson or both made sure the tweet below was quickly deleted.
As pressure mounts for P.M. Theresa May to sack Boris Johnson the Guardian reports:
“Putin says he hopes common sense will prevail in Salisbury row
The Russian president, Vladimir Putin, said today that he hoped “common sense” would prevail in the dispute with the UK over the Salisbury attack. Speaking at a press conference in Ankara, in Turkey, he said:
We wait for the moment when, finally, common sense comes out victorious, and international relations stop receiving the damage that we are witnessing right now.
Yesterday’s Porton Down statement represents a vindication of sorts for Craig Murray, the former ambassador to Uzbekistan (his book about his time there, Murder in Samarkand, is very good) who left the Foreign Office after becoming increasingly outspoken on the subject of human rights and who now blogs and campaigns, largely from an ultra alternative and anti-establishment viewpoint.
His suggestion that Israel is just as likely to have been to blame for the Salisbury attack as Russia would probably be seen by many people as borderline delusional.
But his Porton Down blog from three weeks ago has stood the test of time. “
Jeremy Corbyn was criticised by some of his own M.Ps for his thoughtful approach.
Will they now post a public apology?
Op-ed: It’s always sad to see Labour MPs in the mix with Tories but more so when a few weeks, or is it days, later they are all proved to have been WRONG.
#WeStandWithJeremyCorbyn has been a popular hashtag on social media for supporters of the Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn and it is a shame some of our own Labour MPs did not do just that!
Dare we say the usual suspects?
As Theresa May went into full attack mode against Russian leader President Putin some Labour MPs opted to applaud her and stand with her in parliament.
John Woodcock seems to have been a leading light in this.
As news broke this week that PM May and her Foreign Secretary had jumped the gun on Russia, as usual Jeremy Corbyn stands on the correct side of this affair, by having initially offered a measured approach.
Some MPs will no doubt be quick to comment that Jeremy Corbyn was a serial political rebel when he had a seat on the backbenches but he did not simply rebel to undermine a party leader rather he rebelled as he believed what he was saying.
I wonder how many who backed the Early Day Motion reproduced below can say the same?
RUSSIA'S POISONING OF SERGEI AND YULIA SKRIPAL
Date tabled: 14.03.2018
Primary sponsor: Woodcock, John
Sponsors: Streeting, Wes Creasy, Stella Doughty, Stephen Umunna, Chuka Coffey, Ann
That this House unequivocally accepts the Russian state's culpability for the poisoning of Yulia and Sergei Skripal in Salisbury using the illegal novichok nerve agent which has also led to the serious illness of Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey who went to their rescue, and to the possible poisoning of other members of the emergency services and public as yet unknown; fully supports the statement made by the Prime Minister on 14 March 2018 in response to Russia's illegal attack on the UK; further supports the Government's sanctions against Russia resulting from this incident thus far, including the expulsion of 23 Russian diplomats; supports the decision not to send Government ministers or members of the Royal family to Russia until further notice; supports the Government's call for a special meeting of the UN Security Council to discuss Russia's use of chemical weapons on UK soil; and resolves to consider support for further proportionate actions to deter future acts of aggression by the Russian state.
Austin, Ian Labour Party Dudley North 14.03.2018
Bailey, Adrian Labour Party West Bromwich West 14.03.2018
Barron, Kevin Labour Party Rother Valley 14.03.2018
Berger, Luciana Labour Party Liverpool Wavertree 15.03.2018
Bottomley, Peter Conservative Party Worthing West 16.03.2018
Carmichael, Alistair Liberal Democrats Orkney and Shetland 15.03.2018
Coffey, Ann Labour Party Stockport 14.03.2018
Cooper, Rosie Labour Party West Lancashire 19.03.2018
Coyle, Neil Labour Party Bermondsey and Old Southwark 14.03.2018
Creagh, Mary Labour Party Wakefield 19.03.2018
Creasy, Stella Labour Party Walthamstow 14.03.2018
Davey, Edward Liberal Democrats Kingston and Surbiton 16.03.2018
Docherty, Martin Scottish National Party West Dunbartonshire 15.03.2018
Doughty, Stephen Labour Party Cardiff South and Penarth 14.03.2018
Ellman, Louise Labour Party Liverpool Riverside 15.03.2018
Evans, Chris Labour Party Islwyn 14.03.2018
Farron, Tim Liberal Democrats Westmorland and Lonsdale 19.03.2018
Fitzpatrick, Jim Labour Party Poplar and Limehouse 14.03.2018
Gapes, Mike Labour Party Ilford South 14.03.2018
Glindon, Mary Labour Party North Tyneside 15.03.2018
Hobhouse, Wera Liberal Democrats Bath 15.03.2018
Hodge, Margaret Labour Party Barking 15.03.2018
Jardine, Christine Liberal Democrats Edinburgh West 15.03.2018
Jones, Graham Labour Party Hyndburn 15.03.2018
Kinnock, Stephen Labour Party Aberavon 14.03.2018
Lamb, Norman Liberal Democrats North Norfolk 21.03.2018
Leslie, Chris Labour Party Nottingham East 15.03.2018
Lloyd, Stephen Liberal Democrats Eastbourne 16.03.2018
Malhotra, Seema Labour Party Feltham and Heston 15.03.2018
McDonald, Stewart Scottish National Party Glasgow South 15.03.2018
McGovern, Alison Labour Party Wirral South 14.03.2018
McKinnell, Catherine Labour Party Newcastle upon Tyne North 15.03.2018
Monaghan, Carol Scottish National Party Glasgow North West 16.03.2018
Murray, Ian Labour Party Edinburgh South 15.03.2018
Perkins, Toby Labour Party Chesterfield 14.03.2018
Rimmer, Marie Labour Party St Helens South and Whiston 21.03.2018
Ryan, Joan Labour Party Enfield North 15.03.2018
Shannon, Jim Democratic Unionist Party Strangford 19.03.2018
Smeeth, Ruth Labour Party Stoke-on-Trent North 14.03.2018
Smith, Angela C Labour Party Penistone and Stocksbridge 15.03.2018
Snell, Gareth Labour Party Stoke-on-Trent Central 15.03.2018
Spellar, John Labour Party Warley 15.03.2018
Stone, Jamie Liberal Democrats Caithness Sutherland and Easter Ross 15.03.2018
Streeting, Wes Labour Party Ilford North 14.03.2018
Swinson, Jo Liberal Democrats East Dunbartonshire 16.03.2018
Timms, Stephen Labour Party East Ham 15.03.2018
Turley, Anna Labour Party Redcar 14.03.2018
Umunna, Chuka Labour Party Streatham 14.03.2018
Wilson, Phil Labour Party Sedgefield 15.03.2018
Woodcock, John Labour Party Barrow and Furness 14.03.2018
You know it is funny what you find online and sometimes even more so what you find lurking on your computer.
All the recent nastiness and mud-slinging aimed at Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn and his supporters has been many things.
To those of us labelled hard left trots, a rabble and worse it has been challenging to say the very least.
To people cut off from U.K. politics by choice or not it must give the impression we are a band of monsters but we are not.
Take a look at the image above. A young Tory on a Facebook group called “Jeremy Corbyn is a dirty old man!”
Take a look at the list below and you will quickly realise Cllr Munro cannot use the excuse someone added me and I did not know.
Said councillor was happily adding people to the group.
That group may or may not still be active on Facebook. With so many people reporting the group it could have been taken down by Facebook.
It did not make an issue of The Times but we thought it fair to give it a share in light of recent events.
It is or was a closed group I think that you join to take part.
Some closed groups that are Jeremy Corbyn supporting apparently were infiltrated by trolls working for a Times journalist Gabriel Pogrund. Who knows if some actually posted click-bait posts and comments to get a response?
It could be though they found some real abuse as all Facebook groups face a tough time keeping abuse free.
I did not infiltate such a nasty group as Jeremy Corbyn is a Dirty Old man. That group by the was renamed from much worse following complaints.
But this old retired NHS worker is computer savvy.
Unless a group settings are totally locked down it is easy to see the list of members.
I acutally found the information having seen this nasty group on Facebook with some shocking posts visible and trying to see who was behind it.
Social media is not abuse free and it is not simply a Labour Party issue.
(Below more abuse aimed at Mr Corbyn on Facebook though we have no idea who the abusers are this time)
Hello all, shall I start this with something like a confession at alcoholics’ anonymous?
I cannot stand up to say it as I am sat typing at a P.C. and these days my old legs are not so good but here it is:-
My name is Eileen and I created a Jeremy Corbyn supporting group on Facebook a couple of years ago.
Phew that's better, confession being good for the soul and all that.
I have started in light-hearted mode not because I view all allegations of abuse as trivial or non-existent but rather because this is a heavy subject.
So firstly why create a group?
Why not there are tons on Facebook? Everything from dogs to politics to sex to D.I.Y and more.
Political groups can be a good place for sharing information, keeping each-others spirits up through any election defeats and so much more.
Political supporting groups have been on Facebook for as long as I have been a member but probably longer and from its humble early beginnings.
Some are lovely and friendly others feel like a jump into a lion's den but that is why some members love them.
Some people you know like to chat about politics anywhere and everywhere
But one reason is a positive group like ours helps counteract nasty ones such as Jeremy Corbyn is a Twat, Jeremy Corbyn is a Total Twat and Jeremy Corbyn is a dirty old man, which originally had a more abusive title linking Mr Corbyn to paedophilia re his young supporters. There is of course no evidence of that but those are just three right-wing groups on Facebook all pedalling hate, all reported to Facebook over and over again and which continued to cause offence, house trolls and be abusive, who knows perhaps all just for a laugh?
Funnily enough those groups seem to have been taken down today or recently. Interesting?
However you know Facebook.
Always able to find bits and bobs that lork after a deletion.
Perils of running a group
For a group to work you need a good admin team that all sing from the same song sheet and are there for one purpose only, in our case supporting Jeremy Corbyn on his path to being our next Prime Minister of the U.K.
Some Facebook users prefer to just have a laugh but being an admin is at times no laughing matter.
In our case we are now a small group of Corbyn supporters all working together as a great admin team, but along the way there have been bumps and hurdles.
We manage a group of over 4,100 members and some members are active online 24/7.
We obviously are not.
Our admin team includes the retired and the young working. With the best will in the world we cannot police our group day and night 24 hours a day.
We opted early on to add some restrictions to our group which means shares into the group have to be approved and so do new member requests. We added a couple of questions as to why a person might want to join us but people often tell lies on social media, don’t you know.
So we check profiles and do our best to make sure the person is a good fit for our group before we open the door and say come on in.
We do not always get it right but once a mistake is clear we remove that person a.s.a.p.
Then it is mind the door does not hit you on your way out!
In the two-years we have been an active group the admin team has changed more than once. This may mean we have stuff lurking in our basement which we really should bin.
Again we work to try to keep on top of that as and when we can.
But we do have open commenting and that can be a problem.
It means as long as you are a member of the group you can comment on a thread any time of day or night.
Whilst we check and delete offending comments some occasionally get through.
It has been a learning curve for us all including our members.
People are hurting under this cruel Tory government and when a person is affected themselves they lash out.
Is there any wonder ordinary non-funded, non-affiliated Corbyn supporting groups on Facebook get it wrong at times?
Our group has a great mix of people though all with the common aim of supporting Jeremy Corbyn. We are old, young and in the middle, varying ethnicity, well, not so well, vulnerable and people with disabilities, highly educated, not so educated and under educated; we are in fact a great cross section of the general public if you exclude the fat-cats.
And 99.9% of the time we all gel as one.
It is not only hurtful but sad to see such poor journalism in The Times today. It used to be such a great read quite a few decades ago now.
But these days it is under the leadership of Richard Murdoch former boss of the now defunct scandal rag the ‘News of the World’, still boss of the most hated publication in all of Liverpool ‘The Sun’ and long-time friends of high-ranking Tories and Mr Tony Blair.
Now that is not a conspiracy theory. A cursory search through Google images online will confirm it for you doubters.
In February the Daily Telegraph reported that the Tory Party was going to hire paid trolls to work for them on social media.
They were getting desperate to beat Mr Corbyn's unpaid band of faithful supporters.
We have all got used to being called a crazy cult, rabid trots and more sometimes by people within the Labour Party.
It is not called abuse though when it is directed at Jeremy Corbyn supporters for some reason. Odd that.
But I think we must all be getting like Jeremy. He has shown strength and resilience; When the going gets tough the tough get going.
In our hearts we know Mr Corbyn offers so many people in the U.K. a much better tomorrow, much better than more of the same old tired politics of other political parties including now old new Labour. We also know our man is not for sale and so do the likes of Rupert Murdoch.
Easter Sunday as many decent people who support Jeremy Corbyn are trashed by the mainstream media and have their names splashed in some cases across Rupert Murdoch rags it is hurtful to see supposed comrades joining in the abuse.
It's a fact some people are silly, some hateful, some fifth columnists and some genuine. Sorting out who is who online can be tricky.
If you see or experience abuse in any Facebook group or elsewhere online report to the admin, the site and if necessary the police so it can be investigated.
And do so no matter where the abuse appears to hail from.
A few images from our group have been used in this report. Some may be funny others more serious but hopefully non will cause offense.
Humour and satire can be a useful tool but also misjudged and misused at times.
Think back to Charlie Hebdo and have a long hard think.
If you are a Jeremy Corbyn supporter and use Facebook why not drop by and give us a knock?
We may just open the door and give you a huge welcome or we may slam the door in your face.
In our group there is never any offence intended; we just want to keep our safe and secure place where we gather just that; safe and secure.
For Background to this story:
In the Murdoch press:
Exposed: Jeremy Corbyn’s hate factory
Vitriol and threats of violence: the ugly face of Jeremy Corbyn’s cabal
Racist comments ‘should be investigated by police’
Luciana Berger: Four types of vicious abuse; just one way to deal with itJeremy Corbyn’s online army: the Facebook groups peddling hate
Targets of the trolls
On this website:
Lord Sugar you should be fired from Twitter
Jeremy Corbyn supporter looks back at this week
Where did you get that hat?
Lies, Damn Lies and Corbyn’s Anti-Semitism
Jeremy Corbyn Wins Apology And Payout From Tory MP Ben Bradley Over 'Communist Spy' Tweet
Minister's relative gives Tories £816,000: Labour
Tories hire army of tweeters to take social media fight to Labour
All things Corbyn
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